What if ministry is keeping you from exploring parts of your self? In this episode Collin sat down with Ben Crandall, the owner of  Banner Coffee Co in Arroyo Grande, California. This episode was a deep dive on entrepreneurship. We covered: Ben’s journey from ministry to opening a coffee shop,  the sense of internal drive and wrestling that led him to make the jump, the highs and lows of entrepreneurship, and Ben’s decision to stay a part of his church after no longer working there.  ---- This episode is edited and produced by Fohrm Studio. The song in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA.