Episodes
What if ministry is keeping you from exploring parts of your self?
In this episode Collin sat down with Ben Crandall, the owner of Banner Coffee Co in Arroyo Grande, California.
This episode was a deep dive on entrepreneurship. We covered:
Ben’s journey from ministry to opening a coffee shop,
the sense of internal drive and wrestling that led him to make the jump,
the highs and lows of entrepreneurship,
and Ben’s decision to stay a part of his church after no longer...
Published 11/20/24
What happens when a pastor starts making cocktail content in his free time?
In this episode we sat down with Jordan Hughes (@highproofpreacher on Instagram) to chat through:
Jordan's journey from preacher to high proof preacher
the pros and cons of monetizing a hobby
and listening to your inner voice
This episode is edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA.
Published 11/07/24
What if ministry is making your hair fall out?
In this episode we sat down with Kaitlynn Wagner (former pastor at Christ Church of the Valley) to talk through:
The anxiety that pushed her out of ministry
Moving to a new city after leaving ministry
and her path to becoming a therapist.
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This episode is edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA.
Published 10/23/24
What does pastoring have to do with pop punk and product marketing?
In this episode Collin sat down with Anthony Pierri (FletchPMM, Good Hangs) to chat through:
- Anthony's journey into (and out of) ministry,
- tech product marketing,
- being an Enneagram 3,
- and the unexpected ministry of Good Hangs (@goodhangsband)
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This episode was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The songs featured in this episode are "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA and "Shoot Our Way Out" by Good Hangs
Published 10/09/24
In this episode Collin sits down with his friend Andres Rodriguez (former pastor at the Village Church turned real estate appraiser) to talk about:
- performance and power dynamics in ministry,
- in groups and out groups,
- and finding community after ministry
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This episode was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song featured in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA
Published 09/25/24
Grief takes time.
In this episode we sat down with Matthias Barker (Therapist and Co-Founder of The Trauma Institute) to talk about:
Matthias' experience feeling born and bred to be a pastor,
the homesickness he felt leaving ministry,
his path to becoming a therapist,
and healing from grief along the way.
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This episode was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song featured in this episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA
Published 09/04/24
What if leaving ministry meant you could be your true self?
In this episode, Collin sits down with Cass Curry (Account Executive at LinkedIn) to talk about:
In-N-Out Burger
Cass’ journey from Willow Creek to LinkedIn
ambition
and showing up as your true, whole self.
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This episode of Holy Shift was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song featured in the episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA
Published 08/21/24
What do you do when your loyalty isn't to your job anymore?
In this episode Collin sits down with Conner Smith (Account Executive at Limble) to talk about:
Conner’s journey from SDR to AE in 6 months
Finding and living your “why” after ministry
And dreaming small
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This episode of Holy Shift was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song featured in the episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA
Published 08/07/24
Who am I if I'm not a pastor?
In this episode Collin sits down with his friend, mentor, and former boss Josh Saenz (Founder of Compel You).
Collin and Josh dive into:
why (exactly) leaving ministry feels like a death,
the role family played in their transitions out of ministry,
and the pain of not knowing who you are outside of ministry.
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This episode of Holy Shift was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song featured in the episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA
Published 07/24/24
So you left ministry, but what kind of job should you go after next?
In this Episode of Holy Shift, Collin sits down with the kind of ex-pastor career transitions – Todd Linder.
Collin and Todd talk about:
Todd’s complicated, 2 year journey out of ministry,
How Todd landed his first role,
Why saying “I just want to help people” won’t actually help you,
And how to get clear on your career after ministry.
Check out Todd's special offer for Shifties at...
Published 07/10/24
Ex-ministry existential crisis. 🚨
In the second episode of Holy Shift, Collin sat down with his friend and fellow Portland ex-Pastor Brandon Perkins (Sales at Responsive.io).
Collin and Brandon talk about:
- Brandon's journey leaving ministry,
- the existential crisis that followed,
- how Brandon found his career in tech sales,
- and how leaving ministry changed them.
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This episode of Holy Shift was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song featured in the episode...
Published 07/03/24
In the first Episode of Holy Shift, Collin sits down with his friend (and new coworker) Trevor Cragg, Manager of Customer Success at GoFundMe.
Collin and Trevor chat about:
- Trevor's Transition out of ministry
- How he landed his first role at GoFundMe
- How he's climbed the career ladder since being there,
- and Trevor's take on the worst piece of career advice ever.
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This episode of Holy Shift was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song featured in the episode is...
Published 06/26/24
A 3 minute teaser from Episode 1 of Holy Shift.
Curious what Holy Shift is going to be all about? Take a few minutes to listen to this 3 minute teaser from Episode 1.
Collin dives into:
- what Holy Shift is
- why Holy Shift exists
- and what you can expect from every episode.
Episode 1 will air in it's entirety on June 26, 2024.
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This episode of Holy Shift was edited and produced by Fohrm Studio.
The song featured in the episode is "Gypsy Queen" by RÓSA
Published 06/22/24