In this episode, Joe is joined by Seth Masket. Seth is a political scientist, professor, and author. Seth has written multiple books, including No Middle Ground, which explores how the United States has shifted toward candidates that represent ideological extremes, The Inevitable Party, which examines different attempts to change the current party system and why they failed, and Learning From Loss, a book that walks readers through the Democratic party’s response to the 2016 election up to 2020. Joe and Seth discuss Seth's new book The Elephant in the Room, which he expects to publish in 2025 and advice for democratic candidates to follow as they enter this election season.