In this episode, Joe is joined by Sasha Issenberg. Sasha is a journalist and author. Throughout his career, he has written for Slate, Bloomberg Politics, the Boston Globe, and Business Week. Sasha has written five books, including his most recent book, Lie Detectives: In Search of a Playbook For Winning Elections In the Disinformation Age. In this episode, Joe and Sasha talk about his recent article on Hal Malchow and his mentorship. They also discuss the role journalists play in the fight against misinformation and the path to return to less polarization in politics in the future.