Burnout and failure are inevitable in HR. So how can we grow and learn from our own mistakes? Tracie Sponenberg, Chief People Officer of the Granite Group, joins Hebba to discuss her storied career in HR and to share her love/hate relationship with the industry as a whole. She reveals why open communication and having conversations with your employees, whether it’s good, bad, or anything in between is vital to anyone working in HR.  Then, she and Hebba delve into various topics, including the challenges of maintaining a small company culture while scaling, the changing landscape of HR roles, and the shift towards leading with humanity rather than compliance. And stay tuned because later, Tracie opens up about her own experiences with burnout and offers advice on setting boundaries and protecting yourself from burnout in the HR field. 00:01:36 - HR Hot Take 00:03:43 - From Personnel to HR: Finding My Passion 00:07:40 - Key Inflection Points in Tracy’s HR Career 00:11:53 - The Changing Landscape of HR 00:18:08 - The Emotional Burden of HR 00:22:59 - The Evolution of HR and Internal Communication 00:26:35 - Maintaining Company Culture as You Scale 00:28:52 - Preventing and Healing from Burnout 00:37:19 - The Future of HR and People: More Advisory and External Roles 00:43:29 - The Importance of Communication with CEOs And if you love HR Therapy, sign up to I Hate it Here, the newsletter for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/ For even more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page.  Follow Tracie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/traciesponenberg/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef 15Five is the performance management platform that drives business results and gives HR teams a complete solution to deliver high employee performance, engagement, and retention while improving manager effectiveness.  Find out more about 15Five here. And if you'd like to keep learning, Hootsuite’s new 2023 Social Media Career Report is loaded with insights about social marketers’ pay, promotions, job satisfaction, challenges, gender pay equity, mental health, and more—to help you attract, hire, and retain the best social marketers. Uncover the state (and state of mind) of the social media marketer in the full report!