In HR, quitting is a part of the job. But no one talks about what happens when HR is ready to quit HR.  RyanMae McAvoy, Senior Director of People Operations at Blackthorn.io, joins Hebba to unpack quitting from an HR-centric point of view. When is it time to call it quits? And what factors are the primary motivators behind discontentedness in HR?  RyanMae and Hebba break down the emotional aspects of leaving a job, explain why community is pivotal in decision-making, and reveal the greatest challenges faced by HR professionals on a day-to-day basis. They also dive into the role of empathy, boundary-setting, and personal acknowledgment in creating a happier workplace.  Why are so many HR professionals contemplating quitting? And why does it so often feel like HR is on an island of its own? Together, Hebba and RyanMae shed light on the often neglected aspect of HR professionals contemplating leaving the field.   Reach every worker with Firstup’s intelligent communication platform. Firstup helps you connect with your employees, deliver personalized communication, and gain engagement insights to deliver an exceptional employee experience. Visit firstup.io to learn more.   00:00:37 - Accidental HR Career Leads to Leadership 00:03:27 - Improving Employee Retention Through Acknowledgement 00:08:03 - AI vs. Human Touch in HR 00:09:27 - Reasons People Want to Quit 00:12:34 - Coping Through COVID 00:17:44 - Focusing on Mental Health in Workplace 00:21:51 - How to Prioritize Family Time 00:22:09 - Empathy in HR 00:27:40 - Why Setting Expectations is Key for Mental Health 00:31:49 - How to Handle Employee Resignations 00:36:37 - Understanding the Emotional Toll of HR 00:40:56 - Navigating Relationships When Leaving a Job 00:42:53 - Struggling with Authenticity in Workplace 00:48:12 - Balancing Humanity and Work Demands 00:52:17 - Advice for Dealing with Burnout   And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow RyanMae:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rm80920/   Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef