Watch the bonus show w/ Andy & John on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Former CIA Spies Andrew Bustamente & John Kiriakou debate American politics, the 2024 presidential election, Donald Trump, Israel, Russia, privacy laws, and whistleblowers. SPONSORS https://hims.com/danny - Start your FREE online visit today. https://shopmando.com - Use code DANNY for $5 off your starter pack. KIRIAKOU LINKS: John's Substack: https://johnkiriakou.substack.com Follow John on X: https://x.com/johnkiriakou BUSTAMANTE LINKS: Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/DannyJonesPodcast Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com Join the podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Guantanamo prisoners plea deal 08:16 - Andrew Bustamante's & John Kiriakou's careers 13:20 - American ideals vs. the law 23:53 - How the world really works 27:18 - Framework that governs America 34:31 - Deep state's election influence 40:58 - Kamala Harris 50:46 - Will Trump abolish the CIA? 01:06:49 - Trump's shooter 01:19:53 - Venezuela 01:28:08 - Kiriakou's regret about whistleblowing 01:41:48 - Edward Snowden: criminal or hero? 01:50:07 - How the law interferes with our independence 01:59:23 - Why Kiriakou's work with Russian state media 02:13:17 - Israeli spies in America 02:24:21 - Hamas is a red herring 02:34:45 - WW3 02:42:25 - Hezbollah 02:47:50 - China Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices