On this episode of Leader Chat, Jeff speaks to Dr. Kerry Healey and Vice Admiral Dee Mewbourne about their upcoming leadership course at Princeton. Kerry's experience in the public sector complimented by Dee's experience in the defense sector, brilliantly come together to form a well-rounded approach to modern leadership and management training. Their conversation covers challenges they both experienced over course of their careers, issues they see challenging public leaders today, and how they likely translate well for educators. For leaders looking to invest more in themselves and their own development in order to lead and serve others better, this is a must listen!