We all get excited about that new, shiny code, but more often than not, our company can live without it. On the other hand, some old and boring lines of code laying around are usually the backbone of our entire business system. And while inventors tend to get all the praise, those who keep the wheels running smoothly are content with, well, the wheels running smoothly.  Today we talk with Tramaine Darby, a Senior Manager of Content, Subscriptions, and Insights Engineering at Red Hat. She tells us how to manage teams responsible for maintaining the systems that make companies run and how to defend these systems from hard-cuts and radical changes.  When you finish listening to the episode, connect with Tramaine on LinkedIn and Twitter. Mentioned in this episode: Tramaine on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/tramainedarby/ Tramaine on Twitter at https://twitter.com/tdarby4 Red Hat at https://www.redhat.com/