We all want our code to be stable and resilient to future challenges. But we need to strike the right balance between testing our systems and the cost of failure. This is much harder to achieve than it sounds.  Today we talk with Melanie Frank, Managing Vice-President of Cyber Engineering at Capital One. Her teams innovate boldly to secure the enterprise while obsessing over excellence. Before Capital One, Melanie worked at Honeywell at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, where she tested software that conducted scheduling, command, and control for space network communication satellites.  Drawing from her experience in the aerospace and financial industry, she tells us about the significance of testing and how to do it right for your product.  When you finish listening to the episode, connect with Melanie on LinkedIn.  Mentioned in this episode: Melanie on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanie-frank-06b3675/  Capital One at https://www.capitalone.com  NASA Goddard Space Flight Center https://www.nasa.gov/goddard  Corgibytes at https://corgibytes.com  Empathy in Tech at https://empathyintech.com