Summary The conversation covers various topics, including deep-fried cheese sticks, preventing boredom, Granddad's birthday, the dog track, staying motivated, and the process of writing. The conversation explores the importance of setting goals and chasing after them to find fulfillment and avoid boredom. It emphasizes the need for a North Star goal and breaks it down into actionable steps. The hosts discuss the significance of motivation and how it can be sustained by constantly setting new challenges and finding new reasons to be excited. They also highlight the role of incentives and contests in driving innovation and engagement within a business. The conversation concludes with the idea that choosing something to chase is the key to happiness and personal growth. Chapters 00:00 The Adult Food on Children's Menus 02:38 Granddad's Dedication to the Dog Track 09:27 Finding New Rabbits to Chase 11:19 Staying Motivated: Setting New Goals 16:07 The Process of Writing: Falling in Love with the Grind 29:12 Motivation and Challenges 45:36 Choosing Something to Chase for Happiness and Personal Growth