While this episode began as an interview based on a book about kitchens, it became something much more -  A treatise about how we live in our homes, how to make a kitchen your own in ways which acknowledge who you are, how you live and what you love.  Sophie Donelson is a former Editor-in- Chief of House Beautiful Magazine. She is a design journalist, speaker, and strategist whose work celebrates the connection between people and their homes. Her 2023 book Uncommon Kitchens: A Revolutionary Approach to the Most Popular Room in the House is where our conversation starts. Sophie's humanistic and forgiving approach to design resonates. Packed with helpful ideas about how to consider your kitchen design she showcases tens of unique kitchens created by designers for themselves and their clients and by others as well.  When a conversation veers towards describing some colors as "the squeeze of lemon on a fishy pasta", compares matching  upper and lower kitchen cabinets to attaching one's blouse to their underwear and compares the size of some kitchen islands to Escalades you know you're in for a ride.