In Part 2 of my conversation with The AntiMLM Kid, we talk about the fallacy of the nonexistent "Level Playing Field", how MLMs explain Pyramid Scheme payment checks to their reps, get into the Double Speak of Amway, and give some valuable advice for when you find yourself in an awkward conversation about your shoes and income potential in the aisles of your closest Big Box Store. Show Notes Follow The AntiMLM Kid : TikTok | Instagram Amway "Date" Gets Owned Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM...

Ever wonder what it's like to be raised by IBOs? To have every memory and influence rooted in Amway? In Part 1 of my chat with The AntiMLM Kid, we dive into what those early years looked like, how her parents met and how she was groomed into becoming an IBO herself. It wasn't until she met her now husband that she began to open her eyes to the harsh truths of MLM. Show Notes Follow The AntiMLM Kid : TikTok | Instagram r/AntiMLM : My MLM childhood: growing up in an amway family r/AntiMLM :...

When Dianne, a former Amway Diamond reached out to me to help her tell her story and add another piece of the puzzle to our deep dive into Amway, I jumped at the chance. Dianne and her ex-husband were inside the cult for 25 years, and she has quite a few eye opening stories and revelations to share, including what it takes to reach Diamond and what staying at Peter Island is really like. Show Notes What are the odds of Making it to Diamond in Amway? Casino Psychology 101 : What Makes Casinos...

For our Cult Month bonus series we are diving into the History of Amway, starting with Carl Rehnborg, the inception of Nutrilite, and the earliest beginnings of The American Way. Stay tuned as we dive into all the sordid details of the Grandfather of MLM. Show Notes Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book Club MLM Dupes How can you help? MLM Change Report Fraud Truth in Advertising Report to your state Attorney General's office! Not in the U.S.? No Problem! Support the Podcast! Website | Patreon...

When J first joined Amway and started to catch feelings for her upline, it wasn't without a his heavy handed influence. Over the following months she fell hard for his love bombing and future faking, and everything seemed absolutely wonderful, until it wasn't. The dirty looks from other woman in the organization, petty gossip, and unnecessary drama was only the beginning. Show Notes Romance Scams Signs of Narcissistic Abuse Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book Club MLM Dupes How can you...

Content Warning : In this episode we talk about heavy topics including rape, torture and murder. Please use discretion when listening. For our Halloween episode we are diving into the predators who live among us in plain sight, acting as members of society while doing depraved acts when no one is paying attention. We talk about Ted Bundy, John List and the most terrifying Amway IBO I've ever come across, Paul Bernardo. Happy Halloween Hunbots and Hunbros! Show Notes Murderpedia : Paul...

If you're looking for more Amway podcast episodes, do I have a treat for you! Not only are we talking to Dani Rodriguez about her story, but she's also the host of the Exes and Tea Podcast which tells almost exclusively Amway stories! In our chat we discuss her journey in and out of Domestic Violence and the cult of Amway, but also the disgusting things that happened to her while inside, including a health dose of faith manipulation, and child endangerment. Show Notes Connect with Dani :...

In preparation of Amway Month in November, we've got a bonus episode filled with wild Amway Horror Stories, from growing up an Amway kid, to dreaming of one day joining Amway, as a kid. If you thought general MLM Horror Stories were painful, these tales of former IBOs will leave you speechless. Show Notes 10 Horror Stories that Prove MLM is Trash Football Guys - Let's Hear your MLM Horror Story r/AntiMLM - My Personal Amway Horror Story Zelda Universe - Amway Horror Stories My Embarrassing...

Trigger Warning: In this episode we talk to a former Juror on a murder trial about a gruesome case in great detail. Please use discretion when listening. When Trish showed up for jury selection, she just thought she would be fulfilling her civic duty and would be dismissed and headed home shortly. Instead, Trish found herself seated in the jury box, selected for a local murder case, where a woman had been found beaten and murdered in her own home. Over the following days, Trish was thrust...

I can't get enough of this book, How to Make Big Money in Multi Level Marketing, so we are gonna start with Chapter 1, with added snarky commentary and get through this drivel together. In Chapter 1 we learn "How to Prosper and Enjoy the Good Life Through Multi Level Marketing" where we will learn what MLM is, what the future looks like for the industry, the differences between MLM and Franchising and how good of an investment this really is. Plus, the story of "George & DeDe Shaw" to...

Ruth, one of our guests from Season 1, comes back to update us on her life and share her cringey MLM journal entries. As Ruth reads her inner most thoughts as a Hun deep in Pure Romance, we comment and reflect on what she was saying and what she really meant in those last years leading up to finally leaving. From deeply empathic thoughts and actions to saying the quiet parts out loud, Ruth's journey out of MLM gives us an inside look into the mind of a Hun and reminds us what it looks like to...

I am out of town, so here is a spooky Halloween bonus episode with some of the most heartbreaking MLM Horror Stories I found on Reddit, featuring some of our favorite MLMs to hate, Amway, Primerica, Mary Kay and LuLaRoe. If you'd like to dive deeper into these posts and read comments or updates, the source link is provided below, and let me know if you'd like more sourced stories as bonus episodes going forward! There are so many, and they all deserve a platform to be heard on. Show...

Sophia joined Amway as a vulnerable teenager who was just looking for adult mentorship and stability in her life. Through a series of tragic events, Sophia realized that life was far too short to be stuck in something so controlling and toxic, and despite the extreme guilt she felt to her upline, came to find out that she had one foot out the door already. But what happens when you know you have to leave, but you're not sure if you can function in life without your upline? Show Notes 2024 DV...

Happy October!!! Friend of the pod, Elora Dodd found the book How to Make Big Money in Multi-Level Marketing at the thrift store and sent it to me to use in AntiMLM content. For the month of October it will serve as our own culty version of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark and give us fodder for bonus episodes and extra content for True Crime month! Today I am reading some selected passages from "very successful" MLMers, as they tell us why they joined their MLM, as well as a dramatic...

Eva Collins learned the hard way that the coaching and course industry is a less than scrupulous playground full of grifters and decided she needed to do something about it. In our conversation we cover the similarities of our own experiences in schemes, share the red flags to look out for when deciding to hire outside help and wax poetic on why the trolls are so triggered. Show Notes Connect with Eva: Instagram | Website Tupperware Files Chapter 11 r/antimlm Is Master Resell Rights an...

Robyn has had ADHD her whole life, and she's been chasing that "Dopamine Dragon" for as long as she can remember. In the various ways she's learned to control it over the years, it wasn't without the familiar game of MLMs, jumping from company to company, hoping to hit it big. Through joining the old standards, new fads and even a ground floor opportunity, Robyn learned the hard way that the house always wins. In our chat we talk about the effects of MLM with ADHD, toxic diet culture and fast...

*Content Warning* In this episode we talk about heavy topics including Domestic Violence, Narcissistic Abuse, Ableism and Medical Trauma. Please use discretion when listening. Katie was a young woman looking to take hold of her independence and make it on her own when she first met Christian on a dating app. His prolonged abuse helped lay the foundation for a lot of the relationships Katie found herself in and the medical issues still plaguing her to this day. When a freak accident left Katie...

In Part 2 of our story, Sarah and I discuss how the cult evolved after the bombs were successfully prayed away and the bunkers were abandoned in the early 90's. As the toxic diet culture craze came into fashion and being crunchy was the newest fad, Church United and Triumphant clung to their remaining members and adopted a macrobiotic diet. We talk about their obsession with the healing powers of Tea Tree Oil, how the MLM Melaleuca scammed their way in the door, the panic of Y2K, and the...

Back in the 1980's Sarah was born into a Doomsday Cult who worshiped the "ascended Masters" built underground bunkers in the Montana wilderness to survive the nuclear holocaust of The Cold War. But that's not all... Their exalted leader who was affectionately known as "Mother", also had a hand in helping create the cult, Twin Flame University. In part 1 of our episode, we chat about the fear around the Cold War, the history of Church United and Triumphant, Twin Flames and a few other culty...

Dana had no idea the day my face came across her FYP, that in 2 years time her life would be totally different. It started off innocently enough, as an email asking questions, followed by light conversation back and forth, until the last email I received that started with "I just wanted to reach out and say - I QUIT!". But Dana's journey out of MLM was littered with the adjacent scams that occupy the spaces between; Coaching, Courses, Affiliate Marketing, and Facebook Raffle pages that look...

It's about time we had another Herbalife episode, and this one might take the entire loaded tea/shake combo. Meet one of our Discord members Michael, and his mom Ginger who opened up their very own Herbalife Nutrition Shop without having to jump though any of the normal hoops. With shady business practices from their upline, and a less than honest attempt at a retail store, Ginger and Michael learned quickly that this wasn't a real business and it was too late to do anything about it. I hope...

Hey! We're coming to you with a BONUS EPISODE that's a little different that usual, in fact this bonus episode is just an information filled conversation about an event coming up soon that could greatly benefit a lot of our listeners! The Untapped Event put on by the 12M+ Instant Teams Community is an unparalleled 3-day conference designed for the military spouse community. It includes a 2-day virtual experience full of connections, networking, resources, and growth opportunities as well as a...

First, I cannot believe we're on the OTHER SIDE of 250 episodes, and secondly it couldn't be with a more fun guest! Meet Don Martin, fraud investigator by day and host of the podcast Head on Fire. When Don made a video on TikTok asking about the potential dangers of Bomb Party, I HAD to make a reply video, and what happened was our worlds colliding and creating two different podcast episodes about it. In OUR episode on Life After MLM, Don and I talk about the Grift of the Woo, and how...

It's our 250th Episode!!! Michelle is back to help with another Scientology episode! This time with our friend Chris Shelton to talk about his 27 years inside the cult and what the punishments Sea Org members receive are actually like. In this 2 part episode Chris shares about his time growing up inside Scientology, working as a Staff Member at Org Bases like Big Blue in LA, joining the Sea Org, and serving time in the Rehabilitation Project Force, where the punishment DID NOT fit the...