Have we lost a sense of playfulness in our work … and could we get it back? In museums for children, why does “analog usually beat digital?” What’s a “climbing structure”? What are design metaphors, and why should planners beware of them? How can exhibition teams better empathize with one another’s fears and concerns? Why should a museum professional or designer “hyper-specialize”? Jonathan Goldstein and Kyle Talbott (Principals, Skyhouse Studio) join host Jonathan Alger (Managing Partner, C&G Partners) to discuss “Six Keys for Unlocking Your Most Playful, Creative Work.” Along the way: ancient trees, vacuum tubes, and Easter eggs. Talking Points: 1. Finish Every Sketch2. Beware of Design Metaphors3. Design as if You’re Going to Build It4. Demonstrate Empathy Through Disruption5. Analog Usually Beats Digital6. Hyper-Specialize How to Listen: Apple Podcastshttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-museum/id1674901311  Spotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/show/6oP4QJR7yxv7Rs7VqIpI1G  Everywherehttps://makingthemuseum.transistor.fm/  Guest Bios: As a child, Jonathan Goldstein accidentally built a 2-story treehouse surrounded by a thicket of poison ivy. Never deterred by a project’s audaciousness (or the limitations of his botanical knowledge), Jonathan designs climbing structures to conjure adventure and perceived risk—the stuff of childhood memories. Prior to his architectural studies, Jonathan’s earlier career as a junior high school history teacher prepared him for what would be his quest: To awaken people’s senses and engage their innate curiosities. His specialization in climbing structure design is born from a desire to make special places for families to share uncommon, joyous experiences. Jonathan is the founder and design principal of SKYHOUSE Studio. Kyle Talbott is Design Principal at SKYHOUSE Studio. He is obsessed with designing complex three-dimensional labyrinths that challenge the mind and body. He uses cutting-edge parametric modeling software to sculpt weird, organic structures inspired by everything from a craggy mountainside to an osprey nest. Kyle sees the world as a complex, orderly whole, and his climber designs embody the harmony of natural and technological things. He is also a passionate educator who is an Associate Professor of Architecture at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee. In all his work, Kyle helps people cultivate a growth mindset and a heroic spirit through inquisitive play. About MtM: Making the Museum is hosted (podcast) and written (newsletter) by Jonathan Alger. This podcast is a project of C&G Partners | Design for Culture. Learn about the firm's creative work at: https://www.cgpartnersllc.com Show Links: Skyhousehttps://skyhousestudio.org/ SKYHOUSE Studio is a service of the Children’s Museum of Denver at Marsico Campus Jonathan Goldstein Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-goldstein-49856b2a Kyle TalbottEmail for Kyle: [email protected] LinkedIn for Kyle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-talbott-9b17b325/ MtM Show Contact: https://www.makingthemuseum.com/contact  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanalger  [email protected]  https://www.cgpartnersllc.com  Newsletter: Liked the show? Try the newsletter. Making the Museum is also a one-minute email, three times a week, on exhibition planning and design for museum leaders, exhibition teams and visitor experience professionals. (And the best way to find out first about new episodes of the podcast.) Subscribe here: https://www.makingthemuseum.com