Ep. 232 What do the recent Google leaks mean?  Kipp and Kieran dive into the future of marketing automation and how Google's secret algorithm changes the game. In this episode, Kipp and Kieran sit down with Rand Fishkin, the former CEO of Moz and founder of SparkToro, to uncover the hidden facets of Google's ranking system, the influence of AI on marketing strategies, and how empathy and understanding your audience can reshape your marketing success. Mentions Grab HubSpot's free AI-Powered Customer Platform and watch your business grow https://clickhubspot.com/cmt Rand Fishkin https://www.linkedin.com/in/randfishkin/ SparkToro https://sparktoro.com/ Brian Balfour https://brianbalfour.com/ Google Leaks https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/29/24167407/google-search-algorithm-documents-leak-confirmation Moz https://moz.com/ Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.