This week The Red Scare comes to chat with us. Elias goes back to the early 90s to document the his love for and the history of The Red Scare with their guitarist Kip Uhlhorn. They also chat about true crime, software engineering, music data algorithms, origin stories, friendship, flow state, the fan to band connection, documenting the bands body of work, screamo festivals, mental health, 90s touring, marketing, civil wars, AI warfare, suno and more.