What do you do if OCD obsessions take the form of thoughts or urges of harming yourself or harming others? In this podcast interview,  Dr. Vicki interviews NOCD leader and therapist Tracie Ibrahim. Tracy helps us understand what harm OCD is--and what it is not. Here are the main take-away messages: 1. People with OCD can have thoughts and urges about harming themselves or others. 2. These thoughts about harm are usually obsessive thoughts or urges. 3. Harm themes are managed in exactly the same way other OCD thoughts or urges are managed. 4.  It's critically important to be evaluated and treated by a therapist skilled at managing OCD harm themes. Reach out to NOCD to get connected with such a therapist. NOTE: If you have any question about whether your child is suicidal, err on the side of safety and bring your child to the ER.