“An important part of looking after the ocean is that you’ve got to look after the seabirds” If we were able to wave a magic wand and remove introduced rats from oceanic islands, is that enough to protect our seabirds? Pete Carr is an expert on birds in the Indian Ocean and, in this bonus episode of Ocean Matters, he explains to host Helen Czerski the importance to restoring native vegetation on our important seabird islands. Ocean Matters is a Fresh Air Production for the Bertarelli Foundation, subscribe now so you never miss an episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.