Tamsen Webster was one of my very first guests when this podcast launched in 2015. She's been busy over the past nine years — including writing two books. The latest is Say What They Can't Unhear. We discussed how you can do just that on this week's episode of the On Brand podcast. About Tamsen Webster Part message designer, part English-to-English translator, part magpie, Tamsen Webster helps leaders craft their case for large-scale change. In addition to her work in and for major organizations such as Harvard Medical School, Fidelity Investments, and Klaviyo, she’s a judge and mentor for the Harvard Innovation Labs, a professional advisor at the Martin Trust Center for MIT Entrepreneurship, and has spent over 10 years as the Idea Strategist for one of only nine legacy-level TEDx events in the world. She was named to the Thinkers50 Radar in 2022 and is the author of two books, Find Your Red Thread: Make Your Big Ideas Irresistible and Say What They Can't Unhear: The 9 Principles of Lasting Change. She lives in Boston with her husband, two sons, and two brindle Greyhounds, Hazel and Walnut. From the Show Feel like going back in time? Here's Tamsen's first appearance on the On Brand podcast back in 2015! What brand has made Tamsen smile recently? Diane von Furstenberg, of course! In addition to this classic Tamsen smile, she also gave a shoutout to Jones Road Beauty. Founder Bobbi Brown is trying to “change the way women interact with their own faces. There's a red thread of preserving the strength and beauty of what's already present.” Connect with Tamsen on her website and on LinkedIn, learn more about the Message Design Institute, and check out her book, Say What They Can't Unhear. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you’re hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you’d like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices