Episodes
This week's episode presents Part 2 of an excerpt from my course How to Secure a Career as a Medical Science Liaison. Together, these 2 episodes provide you with a good understanding of what an MSL does and how to pursue your first job as an MSL. The material presented over these two weeks, while dense with information, only represents about 15% of the material in the course itself. But if you’re struggling to pursue a Pharma job, this will help you better understand the most popular...
Published 12/06/22
The Medical Science Liaison (MSL) in the pharmaceutical industry is a popular position for physicians who wish to leave clinical practice. This is true because it is possible to qualify for the job regardless of the extent of training (i.e., whether residency-trained or board certified, or not) or specialty; it does not require special certifications or degrees (beyond a medical degree); and it provides a moderate amount of flexibility to work part of the time from home. However, it often...
Published 11/29/22
John was interviewed recently, and at one point the host asked John to describe some of the most esoteric nonclinical jobs he has discovered. That got him thinking about the guests he has met over the past 5 years. So, this week he describes 5 of those guests and the interesting jobs they do that stand out in his mind as particularly unique and unexpected. You will find links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/careers-to-learn-about.                              ...
Published 11/22/22
Jen Barna, MD is a board-certified radiologist, and founder and CEO of DocWorking, a company that helps physicians and other healthcare professionals maximize meaning and purpose in life. It accomplished that by combining expert coaching, peer support communities, and highly interactive courses. Healthcare organizations use Docworking programs to improve recruitment and retention, address and prevent burnout, and improve work culture. Dr. Barna is also the co-host of DocWorking: The Whole...
Published 11/15/22
Lara Hochman, MD is a Family Medicine physician and the Medical Matchmaker. She is an advocate for fellow physicians’ well-being in the face of rising burnout and dissatisfaction. Her own experiences led her to discover the ways physicians lose autonomy, and how to reclaim their focus on helping patients. She founded Happy Day Health, a boutique physician matchmaking agency to match doctors with well-run, physician-owned private practices where they can avoid burnout and enjoy practicing...
Published 11/08/22
For most nonclinical careers that a physician might consider when leaving a high-stress corporate-style practice, one or more association or society exists that can provide valuable support. In this week’s podcast episode, John describes the types of services these organizations provide, and how and when to use their services during the transition to a new job. During the presentation, John also offers two simple handouts for listeners to download that compare the services of 21 popular...
Published 11/01/22
This is the second episode in my series on The 12 Month Roadmap to a New Career. You can find my discussion about Month One of the Roadmap in Episode 269. This episode addresses one of the activities started in Phase 2 (Months 2 through 4) of my Roadmap: Networking. Networking  can be used to: start and grow a business, club, social group, etc. gain acceptance to a school find an expert to help learn a skill identify guests for a podcast, radio show, or TV show, and, find your first...
Published 10/25/22
Today I’m presenting a popular podcast blast from the past from Episode 180. In it I described 8 common mistakes clinicians make when trying to pivot to a new job. Let’s revisit the answer to this question: What are the most common mistakes that will derail your job search? Tunnel vision and not keeping an open mind Being intimidated by a job description Preparing a CV rather than a resume Using the same cover letter and resume for different jobs or different industries Depending too much...
Published 10/18/22
In this episode, John introduces his 12 Month Roadmap to a New Career. He originally developed the roadmap to apply to landing a job as a hospital Chief Medical Officer. But the concepts apply to many other nonclinical jobs. In this first installment, John lists the four specific tactics that he recommends during the initial month of a job search, after first narrowing the search to 2 or 3 specific careers. By accomplishing these 4 tasks, the listener will be ready to proceed to the other...
Published 10/11/22
This week, Dr. Debra Blaine returns to the show to discuss her latest book. She has appeared on the show twice before (Episode 115 and Episode 231) and returns to announce the release of Beyond the Pillars of Salt and to explain how she published it. Dr. Debra Blaine is a family physician who has been practicing for over 30 years. She began writing fiction in earnest several years ago and released her first book, Code Blue: The Other End of the Stethoscope, in 2019. Her second book, Undue...
Published 10/04/22
In this week’s solo episode John explains the power found in Mastermind groups. He defines what a mastermind is. And he recounts the history of the development of the Mastermind in 1939 which is attributed to Napoleon Hill, who wrote Think and Grow Rich. John tells of the Mastermind sessions he had as a chief medical officer (CMO) of a community-based hospital during which members of his team would take turns taking the “hot seat” in order to help overcome a challenge or solve a problem that...
Published 09/27/22
Dr. Cherisa Sandrow is a Board Certified Family Physician. She received her medical degree from Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine and practiced family medicine including obstetrics for 15 years. Making the transition to telemedicine in 2015, she pivoted out of her busy office-based practice and created a thriving telemedicine practice, with the ability to prioritize her core values in life. She decided to help other physicians with career transition, teaching them to use...
Published 09/20/22
Dr. Laura Clapper is a seasoned C-suite executive with extensive experience applying digital health solutions, providing value-based care, and supporting provider-health plan joint ventures. As a thought leader, she has focused on integrating analytics and disruptive technology into traditional systems, such as integrating digital health and remote monitoring into the brick-and-mortar care model of medical groups and hospitals. In addition, she is recognized for her work with employers on...
Published 09/13/22
Dr. Peter Angood has led American Association for Physician Leadership (AAPL) since 2011, having previously provided senior leadership for all sizes and types of healthcare organizations. During his career, Angood was the first chief patient safety officer and a vice president for The Joint Commission, senior adviser for patient safety to the National Quality Forum and National Priorities Partnership, and the former chief medical officer with the Patient Safety Organization of GE...
Published 09/06/22
Called a creativity guru, Robin Landa, Distinguished Professor in the Michael Graves College at Kean University, is the author of 25 nonfiction books published by esteemed publishers such as Simon & Schuster. Berrett-Koehler will publish her new book, The New Art of Ideas: Unlock Your Creative Potential in November. Actor Holly Taylor (Manifest; The Americans) illustrated the book. In it, Robin offers a brand-new method for generating worthwhile ideas. Robin has earned recognition for...
Published 08/30/22
Dr. Gretchen Green has been a diagnostic radiologist since 2006. She completed her medical degree at Brown University Medical School. She then completed a residency in diagnostic radiology at Yale University School of Medicine and a Women’s Imaging Fellowship at Harvard Medical School. Gretchen began expert witness work in 2015 and has served as an expert witness in diagnostic radiology for hundreds of cases for both plaintiff and defense attorneys. This enabled her to transition to...
Published 08/23/22
Today I want to revisit one of the most popular nonclinical jobs for physicians: Medical Science Liaison. It has been quite a while since I presented a podcast on this topic. So, I want to update you on this popular career option. An MSL serves as an educational and feedback link between a pharmaceutical, biotechnology, or medical device company AND healthcare professionals. This role is strictly educational and collaborative in nature. Marketing and selling by MSLs is not permitted. ...
Published 08/16/22
Dr. Joe Sherman is a physician coach and retreat facilitator helping other physicians find more joy in their lives by escaping burnout and expanding possibilities. Joe is passionate about helping healthcare professionals discover how they can best match “soul to role” as they deliver compassionate care to their patients and clients. He is a consultant and coach in the areas of provider well-being, leadership, professional fulfillment, cross-cultural medicine, spirituality, and medicine. As...
Published 08/09/22
Claire Unis majored in creative writing and literature at Dartmouth College, where she wrote for and published a student newspaper. By senior year she had become a regular columnist in the daily school paper. While in medical school at UCSF, she enrolled in the MFA (master in fine arts) program at the U. of San Francisco, where she focused on writing memoirs and narrative nonfiction. She completed both degrees simultaneously. Now a practicing pediatrician, Claire is also a communication...
Published 08/02/22
George Jerjian is the author of Dare to Discover Your Purpose: Retire, Refire, Rewire. Check it out at georgejerjian.com. George retired after being given just six months to live. Thankfully, his diagnosis was wrong. His retirement though was “hellish”.   A former financial advisor, George is now on a mission to help retirees create a plan for their later years which is about more than money. His book shows Baby Boomers that retirement doesn’t have to be a disappointment and gives them the...
Published 07/26/22
Shelly Bhowmik, MD, MPH, is the founder of Platform Wellness, a practice dedicated to helping people heal from burnout. Her practice is based on the belief that mindset is medicine, a belief she realized through her own journey that began at the edge of a subway platform. Dr. Bhowmik is a double board-certified physician specializing in Preventive Medicine and Lifestyle Medicine. She earned her medical degree from the George Washington School of Medicine and Health Sciences and completed...
Published 07/19/22
Ron Barshop is a serial entrepreneur with several ventures serving primary care physicians. His podcast Primary Care Cures has been named on top healthcare podcast lists and presents thought leaders and CEOs of models that are fixing primary care and most of what’s broken in healthcare.  He has chaired two angel networks in Austin and San Antonio and several capital campaigns. He has completed 10 marathons and won national and local leadership awards. He authored his soon-to-be-released book...
Published 07/12/22
This week, I complete my presentation explaining how to capitalize on nonprofit board membership. There are 5 domains that cover most of those skills. Financial Management Data Management Business Management Leadership Talent Management I described each of them in Episode #254. In this episode, I explain how I used my volunteer experiences to obtain such skills beyond those developed during my medical training and clinical practice. For each, I describe specific experiences you can...
Published 07/05/22
This week we return to a leadership and management topic. One challenge that must be faced when pursuing a nonclinical job, especially if it is a leadership or executive position, is demonstrating that you have the skills needed to be successful in that role. So, we start with that end in mind. Where do we get those skills, if they aren’t picked up in medical school or residency? Several places • Pre-medical school experiences • Post-residency experiences • By developing them doing...
Published 06/28/22