This podcast features a mentor-mentee relationship — a premise that could be applied to other industries. For Josh Ho, the "Searching for SaaS" podcast was a way to build in public and showcase his mentorship of a young entrepreneur, Nate Bosscher. The show features perspectives on the stages of building a software as a service (SaaS) business. Josh is in the company building phase. While Nate struggles to start a profitable SaaS of his own.  On this episode, Josh joined John Tyreman, where they discussed: - How Referral Rock helps companies run referral programs through software integrated with CRMs - Key aspects of a successful referral program, emphasizing promoting over just incentives - Josh's Searching for SaaS podcast which he launched to mentor co-host Nate - How the podcast helps Josh clarify his thoughts and messages - Experiences running their podcasts and lessons learned - Possibility of bringing on more guests from founder and builder community This episode was produced by Red Cedar Marketing. Need help launching and running a business podcast that actually produces results? Visit www.redcedarmarketing.com.