Tshidi Madia speaks to Dr Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma and she takes us back to the beginning of Democracy and she speaks about how women had to fight to be part of the CODESA talks. Adding how she cried when Tata Nelson Mandela when he was inaugurated, she cried as she remembered how many people had to fight to achieve the democracy. She also speaks on how the first cabinet had only two ministers who were women. She also touches on the ministerial positions that she occupied, and she also speaks on the office she is currently service under tabling the plans they have when it comes to GBV and Femicide. She also opened up about serving under President Cyril Ramaphosa and said that she is not service the President but serving the people of South Africa. She also touches on Brics youth summit, Jacob Zuma not going to prison as well as the possibilities of South Africa having a female president. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.