It’s time for another Sidebar conversation – a cheeky reference to the fact that we’re both lawyers and love to have conversations incidental to our main topics and episodes – where we let you in on our lives and what we’re obsessing over in pop culture. In today’s episode we talk about how sometimes real life is better than Instagram, the joyful status of Kate's summer bucket list, Carinn’s obsession with Chappell Roan, and whether Jennifer Lopez is the new Elizabeth Taylor. Listen to hear how the writer’s subconscious has manifested itself as Carinn has been discussing The Astrology House in interviews! The PFW Sidebar is now in session! Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices