With Joe still on the road two of the masterminds behind the upcoming Spielworxx game The Cost, Armando Canales and Lyndon Martin,  join Jim in a wide-ranging discussion of games, game-states and playing manners. In addition, Jim finds out just how wrong he's been all these episodes. INCORRECTIONS: 00:06:00 -- A differing opinion on Tank Duel 00:17:50 -- Group Losing 00:26:54 -- Trick Taking Responsibilities 00:42:43 -- Player Manipulation 00:49:08 -- Hate Drafting 00:53:48 -- Takin' it Back 01:01:03 -- Pulling Levers: Math vs. Art 01:15:46 -- The Cost (designer insight)