With Independence Day around the corner, Chris Ying and Rachel Khong recruit chef and gelatin-mancer Wylie Dufresne on their quest to redeem a neglected American classic. Maybe a little liquid nitrogen can help? Find the recipes for this and every Recipe Club on The Ringer's website, watch the video version of this episode on YouTube and Spotify, and join the conversation (and cook along with us!) on Discord and Instagram. Host: Chris Ying Guests: Rachel Khong and Wylie Dufresne Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices