The coronavirus has been described as the biggest challenge the world has faced since the Second World War. Yet while all eyes are on this devastating pandemic, the Amazon forest is burning to the point of becoming a planetary emergency. In this episode Fredrik Moberg looks at deforestation and the looming risk of large-scale destruction in the Amazon and elsewhere – something we know is also linked to the spread of infectious disease from animals to humans. Together with Ana Paula Aguiar from the Brazilian Institute for Space Research and David Armstrong McKay from Stockholm Resilience Centre we will find answers to questions like: How worried should we be? And what can we do about it? Watch the video version of the podcast on rethink.earth Books and publications mentioned during the talk The Great Derangement The Mushroom at the End of the World Tending the Wild Braiding Sweetgrass Nature News Feature on Amazon dieback Contested frontiers in Amazonia Financial Times: five books that explain the battle over the Amazon rainforest About Rethink Talks Rethink Talks is Stockholm Resilience Centre's multimedia podcast series on resilience thinking and global change. It spotlights conversations between experts on a range of topics that highlight how resilience thinking and biosphere stewardship add value to current debates on for instance COVID-19. Read more and see more episodes here Stockholm Resilience Centre is an international research centre which advances sustainability science for biosphere stewardship. The centre is a joint initiative between Stockholm University and The Beijer Institute of Ecological Economics at The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.