In this episode, we take on the difficult topic of literacy education in the American juvenile justice system. Susan is joined by Hilderbrand Pelzer III, who discusses his experience as an educational leader in the Philadelphia prison system. Pelzer talks about what he saw and learned—and explains why he advocates for aspiring teachers to work with incarcerated youth. This passionate and moving discussion breaks down the myths surrounding literacy's relationship with juvenile incarceration and also leaves listeners with advice on how to become more involved in their own communities. Show notes: Hilderbrand Pelzer III's FacebookHilderbrand Pelzer III's LinkedInHilderbrand Pelzer III's Intragram: @hilderbrandpelzer3Hilderbrand Pelzer III"s Twitter: @HP3PotentialWebsite: www.hilderbrandpelzer3.comBook: “Unlocking Potential: Organizing a School Inside a Prison” by Hilderbrand Pelzer IIIHilderbrand's Tedx Talk: What incarcerated youth can teach teachersBook: “The Unspoken Truth and Life Story” by Keenan HudsonQuotes: “Once we have our understanding and expectations, what are the opportunities we are going to put in place to help them thrive? It’s as simple as that. Expectations and opportunities.” —Hilderbrand Pelzer III “Teacher preparation training should be [taking place] inside correctional settings. Why? Because inside correctional settings, you will see all the challenges that we talk about… [the teachers] will not run away from challenges. They will be able to understand, navigate, and already have a plan of action to help.” —Hilderbrand Pelzer III “These are real stories about children living their [lives] unable to read. It’s not data. They’re telling you they’re in a situation of incarceration and they’ve figured that their life is over as a result of not being taught in school.” —Hilderbrand Pelzer III “I said, ‘Well, I’m gonna be at the Philadelphia prison system,’ and he looked at me like my career was dead...not knowing that my career started in juvenile prisons. Going from this to that [felt] like, ‘I’m about to do something extraordinary.’” —Hilderbrand Pelzer III