Kaisa and Kristen freeform on this episode about how they keep running into head center ‘stuff’ as they read sources that feel like it’s talking about the heart. The symbolic implications of this are interesting to play with in the personal as well as the collective sense. They both bring in personal dreams to illustrate these simultaneous and relational centers. Kristen and Kaisa talk about belief, religion, truth, betrayal, and love. Give us ratings and reviews if you like this podcast ~  [email protected] - send us dreams or questions! www.inkstoryrebel.com  - work with Kristen for guidance on dreams! Resources; Jason E. Smith; ‘Religious But Not Religious’ Lecture on Shame/Contempt; https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=xDXQRgq9xL64kYiI&v=fXp9k8pLzgk&feature=youtu.be Paulo Coelho; ‘The Alchemist’