April brought a reality check to markets after a stellar Q1, sparking demand for safety across assets and currencies. The higher for longer rate environment, together with signs of slowing growth and sticky inflation, gives rise to thoughts of future weakness in risk assets. Naturally, investors begin to question where best to take shelter. Are traditional safe havens as effective as they have been in past cycles? How do US Treasuries, the dollar and yen, long the stalwarts of safety, stack up? This week, Fred Goodwin returns to the podcast to discuss the challenges of selecting a suitable safe haven, the intricacies of safe haven currencies and which assets are most appealing to him right now. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.