In this episode of the 'Talking Paint Podcast', host Gabe from Detailing Growth has insightful discussions with Michael Abens, the owner of Urable, a top industry-related scheduling and invoicing CRM, and Jamie Werner, the renowned 'PPF professor' from Equip Academy. Throughout the conversation, they share valuable insights about building a successful career in the automotive industry, the importance of hiring based on character, creating a safe environment for employees, and the transition from transactional to relationship-based business operations. The episode also focuses on how Urable and Equip Academy are changing the landscape of business operations in the industry, and challenges businesses to work smarter, not harder.