Carolyn and Laila sit down for breakfast with the genius spiritual coaching & healing pioneers, our coaching & Magick mentors, the Reverend Doctors Robert Dee McDonald and Luzette McDonald, two people who work such *tremendous LEGIT miracles* that we like to call them the Jesus & Mary of Anaheim. Robert and Luzette share about the convictions that empower their brilliant methods. We also talk about their astounding coach training, Healing the Wounded Heart, which will happen in March and May 2023 in Anaheim, CA. For more information about trainings or one-on-one coaching with Robert and Luzette, visit teloscenter.com or email Robert at [email protected].