Carolyn sits down at her kitchen table with the wonderful Julia Dunne to talk about Julia’s experience of initiation in Sleep Over Mystery School. The conversation winds to Babalon as Compassion and Understanding and Carolyn ends up reading the Cry of the 12th Aethyr by Aleister Crowley. Neil chimes in. At one point Carolyn’s 5 year old daughter Lulu blows her purple whistle and it is loud and annoying AF and not edited out because we are very lazy - you have been warned . 😂