Beyond the massive destruction caused by wildfires are the people who risk their lives just to put them out. In this episode, Ben Iverson of the Forest Service shares with Brandon Dunham a glimpse of the wildfire culture beyond the protocols and into its relatable human aspects. He talks about their project Meta Review, which looks back on the commonalities and differences of past wildfire events to find their most valuable lessons that could help improve fire response and address the poor education on wildfires. Ben also explains how they use focus groups to gather real-life experiences from firefighters to improve their catalog and encourage their colleagues to open up even their most harrowing wildfire encounters.