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The Argument
The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Times Columnists Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat, with other voices from Opinion and beyond, debate the big questions affecting our lives. Their candid debates help you form your own opinion of the latest news, and learn how the other half thinks. Find the best ways to persuade in the modern search for common ground.
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Ratings & Reviews
4.4 stars from 5,124 ratings
Michelle Goldberg
Please ask Michelle Goldberg to stop interrupting; it’s rude, jarringly annoying, and tempts the listener to turn off the podcast.
ChRoSw675 via Apple Podcasts · United States of America · 09/27/20
Bring Back Bruni
So I’ve listened to the Argument since it’s first episode. When Leonhardt left it was a loss. Then Frank Bruni joined, GREAT addition. While I think Michelle is brilliant and Ross is a good foil, with the two of them it is just whinny. It is missing its spark. Bring back Frank Bruni!
Metro60 via Apple Podcasts · United States of America · 09/26/20
SC
Oh Ross you really either naive or just blindly following your tribe
nnnnnsne via Apple Podcasts · United States of America · 09/26/20
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