In part one, hear us discuss what it's like to work on a games magazine when it's closing down, the rise of prestige games mags, and why crowdfunded independent media is so hard to get off the ground. A Profound Waste of Time founder Caspian Whistler joins us for part two. Hear about the creation...

Beefy games chat this week on all of the above – plus The Rise of the Golden Idol, FF7 Rebirth and Apex Legends. Thanks to Matthew 'Big Matty C' Castle for the edits this week. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.