Thabo Shole-Mashao in for Clement Manyathela is hanging out with Vuyolwethu Zungula, the leader of African Transformation Movement as they reflect on his life and navigating political leadership at a young age. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Thabo Shole-Mashao in for Clement Manyathela speaks to Gideon Joubert from the South African Gun Owner’s Association about the relationship between civilian firearm ownership and violent crime in South Africa. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.