Lewis Ludlam is Northampton captain and has played a key role in the England back row in Steve Borthwick's opening couple of games in charge. It hasn't always been plain sailing, though, and we discuss how close he came to giving up the game not so long ago, as well as how much of a voice players should have in the modern game, the involvement of Netflix in England camp at the moment, what Borthwick's regime is like and comparisons with Ardie Savea. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.