A conversation with Maurice Ashley, international chess grandmaster, the first black chess grandmaster and U.S. Chess Hall of Fame inductee. We talk about the parallels between chess and athletic training and competition and concepts that can be applied by athletes to improve, dealing with setbacks, dealing with loss, risk, analyzing competitors and other parallels. We talk about achieving the level of mastery in a craft and whether its born, learned or a combination of both. We talk about how to think like a grandmaster and the distinction between what to think and how to think. We discuss the parallels with chess and life, and how understanding of those parallels can be helpful. Ashley gives his perspective on why we see such large disparities in chess with women and minorities and what can be done to help. Ashley provides his recommendation on persevering in the current climate and what advice athletes and everyone can take from a grandmaster on persevering through difficult times. About Maurice Ashley https://mauriceashley.com/ Maurice Ashley on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/maurice.ashley Maurice Ashley on Twitter https://twitter.com/MauriceAshley Chess Playing App https://mauriceashley.com/product-list/ Maurice Ashley’s Books: The Most Valuable Skills in Chess https://amzn.to/3cYDNh3 Pawn Mower https://amzn.to/2HTfi9j Chess for Success https://amzn.to/36GgrLI