In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine talk about the penultimate episode of The Winchesters, "The Tears of a Clown." Topics include: the concern about Ada considering giving up her soul; Dean's narration about the lies we tell ourselves and what self-lies he might be confronting; Mary's addressing of issues and John's determined avoidance; Carlos' continued therapy work and the ripple effect of an individual's therapy on their community; Lata's incredible research ability which saves the day again; and the episode's commentary on toxic positivity and the importance of facing our grief and problems. They also screech, of course, about ROWENA!!!! The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW Supenatural  audio clip credits: The WB; The CW Follow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBiz and on Bluesky @thefangirlbiz.bsky.social Join our Kofi Discord community at $1/month: https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiers Support our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shop Thanks for listening!