Join Chrisha and Catherine for a chaotic episode where all of the things that can happen in the background at Catherine's apartment do while they try to talk all about the music in the finale of The Winchesters. Topics range from just how exactly Dean did time- and universe-travel, to his kidnapping of the President of the United States, his introspection and shift from an active fighter to a guide, the City of Angels and the City of Love, and lots of Destiel musings.  The Winchesters...

CONTENT WARNING: There is a discussion of suicide and suidical ideation as it pertains to the characters of Akrida Kyle & Lata from The Winchesters and Dean from Supernatural.  Please be aware and kind to yourselves, Wayward Friends. The portion that discusses this content is from 3:33 to 8:48 and has been marked as a chapter so you can easily skip it. In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine start off the episode by going over some thoughts that have come to them since they started...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine start the discussion with Jack and his odd behavior at the end of Supernatural and during The Winchesters' finale before moving on to talk about Baby, The Winchesters' title card and its connection to the Akrida, and the logistics behind Cas' absence. The conclude by reflecting on what was left unresolved and what was healing for them personally. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW Supernatural  audio clip credits: The WB; The CW SPNNash 2021...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss how the car scene at the end of the episode should have been, as a giant infodump, dull--and yet it was not (thanks, Ackles and Thompson!). They also discuss the clapbacks to the Supernatural finale, how dying and going through the multiverse changed Dean, the John and Dean role reversals, how the concept of reparenting applies in a very Supernatural way, and delve deep into Dean's monologue at the end of the episode. Finally, they discuss what...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine catch up on what's been going on behind the scenes with each other, the writers' and actors' strikes and victories, the ongoing trash-fires at networks and streamers, and their gratitude to folks behind The Winchesters for giving fans a thoughtful and healing ending.  The main part of the episode focuses on the various members of the Monster Club: Mary: Her similarities with the Akrida Queen's backstory and how her journey of healing led to different...

Note: This is a re-release of Chrisha and Catherine's reaction episode to The Winchesters'  finale, which was originally released on March 8, 2023. A full analysis of "That's No Way to Say Goodbye" will be released in January, 2024. In this raw audio episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their initial reactions to The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye," with particular attention to the healing work this episode and the entire season did in the wake of...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine look into the theme of mirrors and misdirection, which is particularly prevalent in this episode but has been a running theme throughout the series. They also examine the parallels this episode has with multiple episodes of Supernatural, which all look at the temptation of peace and happiness vs. facing the difficulty of real life and its associated difficulties and traumas!  A big chunk of the episode dives into the background imagery of sideshows and...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine talk about the penultimate episode of The Winchesters, "The Tears of a Clown." Topics include: the concern about Ada considering giving up her soul; Dean's narration about the lies we tell ourselves and what self-lies he might be confronting; Mary's addressing of issues and John's determined avoidance; Carlos' continued therapy work and the ripple effect of an individual's therapy on their community; Lata's incredible research ability which saves the...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine talk jackets and callbacks, Lata's relationship with Maggie, queer media texts, the implications of this being an autobiographical story (told from Dean's perspective), and the interesting messaging behind the song "You've Got a Friend", after which the episode is named. Central to the episode is their discussion about Lata's rejection of blood family above all else, and the implications it has as a response to the messaging of Supernatural's finale,...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the way that the series thus far has been a healing experience for many from Supernatural's finale, Mary's response to Betty and to John's arrest, the revelations about John while he's in police custody, Lata's journey of letting go of things that were not hers to carry, the monster of the week (Erebus), Carlos' support role whilst maintaining his delightful personality, and Millie's personal growth. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The...

CONTENT WARNING: This episode includes discussions of Holocaust imagery and the medical and institutional history of targeting marginalized and oppressed groups for exploitation and experimentation. Please be mindful of your wellbeing when deciding to listen (Begins 19:14; Ends 30:18). In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the troubling elements of "Suspicious Minds", questioning some of the decisions that were made and discussing the real-life roots of the tradition of the medical...

This episode begins with a discussion of fate vs luck in "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" and the wider Supernatural franchise. Catherine and Chrisha then move on to monsters and gods, the differences between The Winchesters' vampires and the vampires from Supernatural (and what those differences might mean), and how the episode's music spoke into its themes. The bulk of the conversation focuses on the scene in the Red Room, its contrasts and parallels with "Despair" and "Carry On" (as usual,...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss The Winchesters' episode "Cast Your Fate to the Wind," starting with the diversity presented behind the scenes and onscreen and moving on to the themes of free will versus fate and how what we think we see may not be the full story. They also talk about Mary's biggest fear, the progress between John and his mom, Lata's inability to keep a secret, Carlos' iconic holy water hair commercial, and much more! The Winchesters audio clip credits: The...

In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine delve into what they've affectionately termed "the red string": trying to figure out what all the hints and mysteries behind each episode are leading to. Topics include: What the HELL was Chuck doing onstage in the episode?; Dean's mysterious reappearance and its implications for the series; Jojo's Insta live and its implications for Destiel and queer Dean; The connections between this episode and Supernatural's "Last Call"; Alice in Wonderland themes;...

SPOILER WARNING: This episode contains reactions to and discussions of The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye."  . . . . . . . . . . . In this raw audio episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their initial reactions to The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye," with particular attention to the healing work this episode and the entire season did in the wake of Supernatural's series finale, "Carry On." A full analysis of the episode will...

If you want to follow along with Chrisha's social media reveals, scroll down to find all the links! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine do a whole lot of screeching about: DeanDean's birthdayDean talking about having an open heartThat freaking amazing Dean reveal at the end of the episodeDean F***ing WinchesterThey also look at Mary's strength in the face of pushy men, John's supportiveness and (sigh) incredibly romantic lines, Lata's continued ability to figure out all of the things,...

In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters'  "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine take out their red string and have fun trying to untangle the mess of what the heck is going on in the wider story. They look at look at the connections between the Akrida and Supernatural S7's Leviathan and delve further into differences between the two series: beyond the odd ghouls to the watchdogs left behind by the Men of Letters and the different way that magic seems to work.  Yes, there is more talk...

In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters'  "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine look at the characters' journeys--everything from the psychological reasons for John's regression under pressure to Millie and Ada bonding to Carlos' knowledge of Latin. In the midst of it all, they talk about odd ghouls, the ins and outs of Akrida possession, and the implications for Robbie Thompson's interview with TV Line, where he teases that he hopes the reveal that the Akrida are from an AU "will drive...

Content Warning: This episode includes discussions of Dean Winchester's death. In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters'  "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine go full red string with discussions about possible AUs, the musical paratexts and how they speak into the story, and parallels between John and Mary and Destiel.  The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW Supernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CW Vancon 2022 audio clip credits: Creation Entertainment  Music clip...

In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters'  "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine talk about barns. A lot. They also discuss Mary's growth as a leader, John's anger and his attempt at healing, Lata's powerful choice for non-violence, and Carlos' sudden silence in the face of true attraction--and how that speaks to Dean's reactions towards Cas.  The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW Supernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CW Music clip credits: "Pull the Wool" by U.S. Stamps;...

In Part 2 of their two-parter on The Winchesters'  "Legacy of a Mind," Chrisha and Catherine pull out the red string. They delve into the reasons why Mary and John's journey into Mary's mind may have felt a little familiar, why the monster of the week may have given us some clues as to what the heck is going on with the series, and discuss about the Akrida and what the episode's songs may be hinting at. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW Supernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The...

It was another massive recording session for episode five of The Winchesters, "Legacy of a Mind," so this week Chrisha and Catherine are breaking it down into two different parts. Part 1 explores the Monster Club's character arcs in the episode and the themes of lies vs. honesty and hiding vs. being seen. Of special focus are Mary's exploration of her darkest moment, Ada's relationship with her son, Tony, and the many, many ways in which John deserves being told to f*** off. Part 2? Yeah,...

Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of PTSD and John's self-harm behavior. It's been a bit of a wait, but Catherine and Chrisha are back with a MASSIVE almost 2 hour episode about The Winchester's E4, "Masters of War." They focus in on the trauma journeys faced by the two different pairs in the episode: John and Carlos, and Lata and Mary, and the different ways each of them face when triggered: healing and community vs. anger and isolation. The Winchesters audio clip...

Episode 3 of The Winchesters was wild, and Catherine and Chrisha were definitely feeling like that gif of the guy with the red string by the end of recording this episode. From new character revelations to the dueling music narratives to the way that radio waves seemed to play an important role in the episode, they dig deep into the meta of the episode and notice some interesting connections between The Winchesters and the wider world of Supernatural. Also: Robbie Thompson, Catherine and...