In this episode, I sit down with Graeme Hand, a certified holistic management educator and grazier with over 30 years of experience. We discuss various aspects of holistic grazing management, including the influence of grazing practices on land health, the importance of recovery periods, and the role of safe-to-fail trials in improving grazing outcomes. Graeme shares insights on profitability versus production, the significance of litter in soil health, and the necessity of adapting grazing strategies to local conditions. The conversation emphasizes the need for a mindset shift in grazing management and the importance of continuous learning and adaptation. Hand for the Land https://www.handfortheland.com/ Wombiana Grazing Trial https://futurebeef.com.au/resources/wambiana-grazing-trial/