Chronic illness and chronic pain are topics that can bring up a big mix of interconnected feelings -- uncertainty, burnout, anger, and even despair. They also challenge our perfectionism, make comparisons hard to stop, and can bring up thoughts of shame or even regrets. In this podcast, Ali kicks off the first in a series of conversations with Liz Fosslien and Mollie West Duffy authors of the book Big Feelings: How to Be Okay When Things Are Not Okay. The trio shares openly about what chronically ails them, and how they manage it in their personal and professional worlds. They describe the loneliness that comes with battling mysterious illnesses and undiagnosed pain. They introduce us to “spoon theory,” and share some advice for how to hold space and offer support to the folks in your work life with chronic illness or chronic pain Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Follow our step by step guides: - How To: Leave a Review on Your Computer: - How To: Leave a Review on Your iPhone: Never miss an episode! Sign up for our newsletter to stay up to date on all our episode releases.