What fuels your relationship with work? When you’re not working, what comes up for you? The compulsion to work can arise from various fears and drivers. Whether we are driven by perfectionism, tie our productivity to our worth, or use work to distract ourselves from other powerful demons such as shame, the spell of hustle culture can be hard to shake. In this podcast, we’re sharing Ali’s second conversation with Liz Fosslien and Mollie West Duffy, authors of Big Feelings: How to Be Okay When Things Are Not Okay. Together, they explore why detaching from work can be so incredibly hard and ponder why separating our identity from our work is so difficult. They get honest about the stories and fears that fuel their own desires to overwork and illuminate how joyful pursuits can mitigate the compulsion to overwork when life gets stressful. Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Follow our step by step guides: - How To: Leave a Review on Your Computer: - How To: Leave a Review on Your iPhone: Never miss an episode! Sign up for our newsletter to stay up to date on all our episode releases.