This month, we're joined by Lisa Abramson for an illuminating conversation around the pitfalls of perfectionism. Lisa is a speaker, coach, and leading authority on mindfulness, burnout prevention, and developing a resilient mindset. Her book Permission to Fail: The Overachiever’s Guide To Becoming Unstoppable breaks down the challenges facing overachievers and introduces five key strategies for developing a resilient mindset. We chat with Lisa about the pressure to succeed for academics and researchers; the downsides of perfectionism and how it inhibits action and blocks creativity; self-compassion and its role in developing resilience; the pain that comes from invalidating our own suffering and obstacles to compassion when working in environments where one is exposed to extreme forms of suffering. Listen all the way to the end where Lisa shares few easy exercises that you can try at home! RESOURCES: You can learn more about Lisa and her book on her website. Lisa's TEDx Talk on her experience with postpartum psychosis is available here, and her book Permission to Fail: The Overachiever’s Guide To Becoming Unstoppable is available on Amazon, in paperback or audiobook format.  Megan references F*ck Up Nights, venues where people can share their mistakes in a forgiving and supportive environment. Lisa mentions a similar exercise around 'Oops Moments', introduced by Sarah Blakely at her company Spanx. If you enjoyed this episode, please rate and review! You can also subscribe to BeDo’s quarterly newsletter for exclusive updates about upcoming episodes and events. Is there a topic you'd like to see covered? Know someone we should talk to? Get in touch at [email protected]. We'd love to hear from you. Happy listening!