Them Before Us staff Jenn & Patience explore Nancy Verrier's groundbreaking 1993 book, "The Primal Wound," which has stirred debate among scholars, parents, adoptees and psychologists. They dip into the existing research about maternal separation and what we know about surrogacy, the million dollar industry separating babies from their mothers for money. Emma Water's latest article on what we know and don't about surrogacy's impact on children. And for our interview with Emma about her research, check out episode #27.