This month, join Them Before Us as we celebrate the irreplaceable roles of both mom and dad with our #ANDnotOR campaign. In this episode, Katy and Jenn introduce #ANDnotOR and celebrate the significance of a child's father You will also hear Mille's story, concieved using a sperm donor and raised by two women. You can also read her story here https://thembeforeus.com/millie-fontana/ We recognize that children thrive when they have the complementary benefits of both a mother and a father...

This month, join Them Before Us as we celebrate the irreplaceable roles of both mom and dad with our #ANDnotOR campaign. In this episode, Katy and Jenn introduce #ANDnotOR and celebrate the significance of a child's mother. You will also hear Samantha's story, raised by her dad and his boyfriend, and her experience with mother hunger. You can read more of her story at https://thembeforeus.com/samantha/ We recognize that children thrive when they have the complementary benefits of both a...

Katy and her nineteen co-authors submitted their manuscript for book #3, Pro-Child Politics, this week, hear the update to this resource you will want before the election this fall. Jenn and Katy also chatted about the response to her Christianity Today op-ed and answered some other questions that came in through social media.

Lori joins Jenn to tell our TBU advocates about The Identity Project, an amazing new resource from a collaboration of organizations and experts to equip parents, pastors, youth leaders and everyone in between on some of the trickiest topics facing us today. TBU listeners get a discount! "The Identity Project is for parents, grandparents, teachers, leaders, ministers, medical professionals, and anyone who wants to know, speak, and advocate for the truth about human identity amid cultural...

Them Before Us staff Jenn & Patience explore Nancy Verrier's groundbreaking 1993 book, "The Primal Wound," which has stirred debate among scholars, parents, adoptees and psychologists. They dip into the existing research about maternal separation and what we know about surrogacy, the million dollar industry separating babies from their mothers for money. Emma Water's latest article on what we know and don't about surrogacy's impact on children. And for our interview with Emma about...

In this episode you will hear from Brad Wilcox, a professor of sociology and director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia. He's written a new book on the importance of marriage and why it's good for all of us. Buy Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization Find more from Professor Wilcox: https://twitter.com/BradWilcoxIFS https://ifstudies.org/

In this episode, we get a sneak peak into Katy's third book, a collaboration of experts on how every major political issue (energy, education, business) could be seen from the perspective of children's rights. Katy also gives us the rundown on her upcoming Rome trip for the Casablanca Declaration meeting. Next we take on some questions from social media: What are some of the differences in care and investment from non-related adults in a child's life compared to a biological parent? What...

In today's episode, we get to hear from Delano Squires, a Research Fellow in the Richard and Helen DeVos Center for Life, Religion, and Family at The Heritage Foundation. His research, writing, and commentary focuses on marriage, family, and fatherhood. You can find more from Delano at: https://twitter.com/DelanoSquires https://www.heritage.org/staff/delano-squires

In this episode, we hear from Dr. Warren Farrell, who wrote a book called "The Boy Crisis" and has written and spoken for many years about the challenges facing men and boys in Western Culture. Let us know what you think. https://warrenfarrell.com/ https://boycrisis.org/

Katy and Jenn go over some interesting news around IVF and donor conception, including a woman who learned at 39 that she dated her half brother in high school and has 22 half siblings. Ireland's redefinition of womanhood and family is also considered. https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/opinion/irelands-about-to-take-women-out-of-its-constitution/ https://wng.org/opinions/ireland-erases-women-1709787556

Jenn and Katy chat about the Alabama State Supreme Court's ruling on IVF and a number of other questions from social media or listeners: Will the Alabama decision change the IVF industry? How should we speak to our church friends who say they're Prolife but are in favor of IVF and disagree with the Alabama ruling? Stat we quote: 1.7 million embryos created for IVF have been thrown away, and just 7 per cent lead to pregnancy How do we respond to people who've already participated in...

Jenn interviews Lezlee, a member of the Not Parent Expected (NPE) community on her experiences growing up and coming to learn the man who raised her wasn't her biological father. Check out more from Lezlee at her website: www.iamlezlee.com and her book, If You Only Knew: Navigating DNA Surprises and the *NPE (Not-Parent Expected) World. Other resources Lezlee mentioned were: https://www.hiraethhopeandhealing.com/ https://dnasurpriseretreat.com/

Jenn chats with long time friend of Them Before Us, Stephanie Blessing about discovering she was conceived using a sperm "donor" (she likes to make it clear she doesn't consider it altruistic or a donation) and how it impacted her life, both in answering questions she'd always had but also in shaking up the life she thought she knew. My Daddy's Name is Donor - https://thembeforeus.com/my-daddys-name-is-donor-study/ Stephanie's story on TBU - https://thembeforeus.com/stephanie-blessing-2/

Jenn interviews Joey Pontarelli, the Founder & CEO of Restored, a ministry to "to help teens and young adults from divorced and broken families heal and build virtue, so they can break the cycle of dysfunction and divorce." They talk about the negative impacts of divorce on their own lives and in the lives of the teens and young adults Joey ministers to and how we can rebuild a healthy marriage culture. See more at https://restoredministry.com/.

Content Caution: We talk about some stories of child abuse perpetuated by people who used surrogacy in the middle of the episode. In today's episode, Katy gives an update on Them Before Us' filming in Vancouver and Jenn digs into Katy's two latest articles, "Meet 5 Accused Pedophiles Who Bought Kids Through Surrogacy" & "I Paused My Career To Have Children And It Was The Best Decision I Ever Made." Federalist: Meet 5 Accused Pedophiles Who Bought Kids Through Surrogacy Evie Magazine:...

Katy is back from a weekend of speaking and meetings in our nation's capital during March for Life weekend and we take on a few more questions from listeners: - What should nurses that work with labor, delivery and other professions that encounter children's rights violating technologies do? - How should the parent at home help their kids handle parent absence because of jobs like military deployment? - How can we make evangelicals listen to the ethical issues with IVF and surrogacy?

In this episode, Jenn and Katy talk about the Pope's latest comments on surrogacy and whether or not surrogacy and poly-relationships are mentioned and encouraged in the Bible. Katy and Jenn finish by dissecting a YouTube video telling men not to get married: The DEVASTATING Truth of No-Fault Divorce https://time.com/6553397/pope-francis-surrogacy-ban/ https://www.npr.org/2023/12/18/1220077102/pope-francis-blessings-same-sex-couples Check out our friend Olivia and her comment...

Jenn and Katy tackle another around of questions from the audience: Is it moral to have big families with so many kids that need to be adopted? Can you talk about the ethics of third party reproduction if you haven't dealt with infertility? Is it okay for a parent to get remarried after a Biblical divorce? How should someone handle not wanting to attend the same-sex wedding of a family member or friend? Is it okay for a woman to freeze her eggs if they're not fertilized? What's...

On this episode, Jenn got to chat with researcher Emma Waters on her work regarding surrogacy and third party reproduction. "Emma is a Research Associate in the Richard and Helen DeVos Center for Life, Religion, and Family at The Heritage Foundation." Emma's latest article at World Magazine: https://wng.org/opinions/exploiting-the-vulnerable-1702897285 Cremieux Recueil's substack on the harms of surrogacy You can follow Emma @emlwaters on X

Katy and Jenn chat about the TBU stance on adoption and foster care, whether or not a single mom should pursue dating, the SNL skit about gay men trying to have a baby and more. Is Them Before Us anti-adoption/foster care? Katy's thoughts on the SNL skit about gay men "trying to have a baby." How has Big Fertility (ivf, surrogacy, etc) gotten away with not having the same standards as adoption? What's the difference between surrogacy and adoption when a child loses birth mom in...

With the recent purchases of babies from prominent gay men in American culture, Katy and Jenn consider whether or not we're allowed to critique methods of conception that violate the rights of children or if all opposition to surrogacy makes a person "anti-LGBT." Check out Olivia's interview with Allie: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7JXYJnxLfLuJ1yav0OZ74d

Katie B. and Jenn talk about the latest study saying the kids raised by two men do better than everyone else's kids and why when we look at studies about same-sex parenting, we see that the decades of social science data is always true: a child does best raised by married bio mom + dad.

In this episode, Jenn and Katy follow up this week's Virtual Gala with a conversation about our 2024 projects (our upcoming documentary, a human resources package that doesn't violate a child's rights and more) and answer all the burning questions we didn't get to from the webinar and social media.

In this episode, Jenn and Katy share their London experience at the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship, the better story for marriage & family in the future, why they believe this is a global movement, and how we can create a better marriage & family culture in our own lives.