Wow, what a conversation we had with Jocelyn. We discuss the London Chamber Orchestra's recent-ish decision to drop their dress code, but before we get into that we talk about her life before being appointed the Managing Director of LCO, and now the CEO of Three Worlds Group. Freelance life is a struggle at the best of times, and we are so so grateful to Jocelyn for speaking so powerfully about her experiences and thoughts on the subject. This felt like such an important and energising conversation, particularly as our first in-person interview (all the way down in the depths of South London), and it was so wonderful to talk to a musician such as Jocelyn who now works in more of a managerial role, but who has also experienced the intensity of freelancing, and is determined to make a change in the world of music. Jocelyn, you are our absolute hero. LCO's website: https://www.lco.co.uk Please consider leaving us a review and rating if you can, as this really helps us reach new listeners, grow our community and normalise these conversations! Follow us on Instagram! And Twitter Our website Or buy us a coffee!  Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/thingsmusiciansdonttalkabout)