Ben Dragavon has over a decade of experience training with a variety of clients from professional athletes to everyday people. In this episode, Ben unpacks what it means for him to talk about mental and physical health, as well as the importance of being vulnerable. This episode also talks about how data collection is important, but it's only a part of the larger picture. "There is always another layer that can you use, to get further and deeper, into knowing the information." Topics discussed: The importance of mental wellness and physical wellness. Does fitness need to be trauma-informed going forward? Using technology and collecting like data points, in order to think critically. Our entire being as a system of systems SUBSCRIBE TO THE NEWSLETTER: Dive deeper with us. Sign up here. We offer a unique view on muscles, portals to new ways to respect the body and health. Learning and ‘enjoy the process’ is a buzzy term. We take learning seriously and want to take our listeners on that journey with us and through us SUBSCRIBE: Subscribe to the podcast to make sure you never miss an episode. You can find us on a variety of podcast apps: Spotify Pandora iHeartRadio Amazon music TuneIn Google podcasts You can find Ben Dragavon at Dragavon Perfomace: https://dragavonperformance.com/ (Website) Instagram http://athletictraininginstitute.com/ (Athletic Training Institue) Jennifer Schwartz: https://www.impactyourfitness.net/ (Website) Instagram https://twitter.com/JennImpact (Twitter) WRITE A REVIEW and WIN: Leave us a rating and a written review on iTunes so more listeners can find us. Screenshot and send it to [email protected]