This is an episode that you will most likely want to listen to more than once. Dr. Vanya Lelani received her Ph.D. in Depth Psychology, where her research focused on the archetypal Eve and the power of creative transgression. Published by Womancraft, The Flesh and the Fruit: Remembering Eve and the Power of Creative Transgression is part mythological exploration, part cultural commentary, and part personal memoir, an accessible, deep and thought-provoking read. Shannon and Laura enjoy an honest and reflective chat about religious influence, the ‘role’ of Eve, leaving ‘good’, ‘should’ and expectations behind in place of journeying towards empowerment and sovereignty – and the cost involved.      More about Dr. Vanya Lelani. She is devoted to supporting women on their own journey of remembering themselves as deep sources of knowing, blessing & permission - and empowering them to walk out of the obedient life into more expansive, creative - and true lives. She is passionate about re-enchantment, the wild within and without, archetypal studies, and learning to live from our deepest knowing, blessing, and permission.  She was born and raised in southeastern Brazil and currently lives with her family in the Pacific Northwest on the United States, where she teaches, writes, accompanies others on their soul-journeys, and tends to the land and animals. Follow Dr. Vanya Lelani on Instagram @drvanyaleilani Website @drvanyaleilani.com ‘Belonging to the Wild’ Podcast-Listen Here linktree- Dr Vanya Leilani You can order your book here   Support Turns Out She’s a Witch- over on Patreon, click below I want in!- The Patreon Coven!   Visit ⁠⁠AshaMoon⁠⁠ Of Earth and Ether Oracle ⁠⁠Get in touch, we would love to hear your questions and stories Email [email protected] Follow us, and DM on Instagram ⁠⁠@turnsout_shesawitch⁠⁠ Produced & Presented by Shannon Cotterill & Laura Turner. Post Production & original music by Matt Turner ⁠⁠@turnzout_media⁠⁠