Jesse Wente’s great grandparents weren’t futurists, but they knew their traditional way of life was ending, and they had a long-term survival plan. We’re talking seven generations long. In this special bonus episode from IDEAS, the author and arts world changemaker explains how the Anishinaabe conception of time might help us all prepare for the end of the world as we know it. "We are, after all, post-apocalyptic. Our world ended, and we survived, and we’re still here.” If you want more mind-expanding talks, docs and more, find and follow IDEAS wherever you get your podcasts, or here: https://link.chtbl.com/r47czLl4